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One of the big old churches downtown maintains a sleekly modern homeless shelter. This is a detail, which includes the green moat separating the building from the rest of downtown in the background. 


One of the big old churches downtown maintains a sleekly modern homeless shelter. This is a detail, which includes the green moat separating the building from the rest of downtown in the background. 

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I like your DOF here, and the receding perspective.
Eeeep i would have to say this is the first picture that i do not like. I'm sorta torn, i mean i do like it but i can not LOOK at it. The curl of the vine makes me focus on the non focused part. It's just VERY DIFFICULT to enjoy the photo.

I like what was trying to happen. I don't really know how i would remedy it either? maybe making that little part part of the vine also in focus? i don't know. i do notice i love how pretty the vine looks at the bottom. I guess you get to see i do critique and i'm not all sweet comments and kisses.
Martin: There is definitely no need to apologize for offering a critique of any of my shots. On the contrary, I appreciate the feedback! It is the only way to make progress. I can certainly see what is bothering you now that you have pointed it out.
  • Ted
  • United States
  • 1 Nov 2007, 02:58
I like this shot because it invites deeper looking. The qualities that "Spot the Pot" does not like are the ones that I do. It's more unsettling and unconventional and I think that makes it stronger.

It's intriguing. Without reading your text, it's hard to know what I'm looking at yet there's enough there to get a hint and make me want to know. I like the fact that the focal point on the leaf is so low in the frame. And it looks like I'm looking at a hallway or a tunnel, but I'm not sure.

So, I like it.
Martin: Thank you, Ted! I didn't expect this shot to divide opinions this much. For what it is worth, I posted it for about the same reasons you cite for liking it.
I keep saying to myself, "I want to see this in colour."
Martin: Karen, I can see where you are coming from, but since the foreground is essentially b/w and the background rather colorful, I thought that b/w was necessary to maintain the focus where intended.
  • ray
  • Thailand
  • 1 Nov 2007, 06:22
Gotta love that bent-over nail in the horizontal chunk of timber, Martin....that's what the image is all about, right? I think this is what "Hope" is getting at...the nail is thinking to itself "I hope I can find a physiotherapist this evening...one with a claw-hammer to straighten me out".

Eeerr...what's this about the shelter not having a home? What kind of mean-minded folks live in this city...surely there are people who could give a home to the poor darn shelter?
Martin: Ray, it is good to have a clear-sighted individual come through and sort us all out smile Thank you for the lighthearted commentary!
This is a photograph which invites you to pause and look deeper and longer. I like it very much. (:o)
Great shot ...
  • Kathryn
  • Germany
  • 1 Nov 2007, 08:07
Martin. the concept is a good one and there are elements of this shot that make it strong..the DOF, the lighting on the wood, the vine, the tunnel in the background, and the lines (but I think you already knew all that) . All of that said, there are a couple of things that sorta bug me. The lighting on the right side is very extreme as is it on the left lower side. And the bluriness of the vine at the top..some how I want the entire vine to be the focal point, although if the extreme lighting were gone, I think I would rather like the idea of that vine blending in with the tunnel...symbolic I think.
lol at Ray and his nail in search of a physiotherapist.
Martin: Kathryn, thank you for the feedback! I appreciate it very much. The whole twig really should be in focus. I'll probably go back and reshoot this with more DOF. This was shot towards the sun, which causes strong highlights. I toned them down some for this post, but perhaps not enough. I'll experiment when I get home tonight. Thanks again for sharing your thought!
  • Louis
  • South Africa
  • 1 Nov 2007, 09:58
You do a b&w and then refer to the green moat? I can just see white and grey in the background smile

Excellent picture and composition. Is the plant thing for real?
Martin: The plant thing is real. I thought 'black and white moat' didn't have the same ring to it. Maybe I should have tried 'vegetation-filled moat' or 'jungle moat' or maybe 'agricultural tract?' Thanks for dropping by!
I do like this shot because of the sharp vine at the front but the background I have to admit makes me a bit dizzy when I look at it for too long (or maybe it's that I need sleep) which I don't like. So the jury is out where I'm concerned. My compliments for posting this picture. I like it when I have to use both sides of my brain to see.
  • Tracy
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 1 Nov 2007, 15:28
I like the shot but you are invited to look deeper into the picture which after a while made me a bit dizzy. The foreground is really nice I like the weaving vine and the bent over nail.
  • blackdog
  • United Kingdom
  • 1 Nov 2007, 15:43
Lot of nailing of colours to the mast over this one. I like the shot, but think the weakest point is the out of focus vine (would have been tempted to bend nature a little). I think B&W works well - especially with the point of light at the point furthest away from us. Any significance to the number of "crosses" that turn up in your photos?
Martin: Yes, this one seems to encourage people to share their opinions, which I think is great. I'll try to reshoot it this weekend with all of the vine in focus. Should have done that the first time.

The cross in this one is intentional, given the mission of this building and the fact that this is a church annex. I wasn't aware of many other crosses sneaking into my photos. It is certainly not the purpose of this blog to promote or endorse any form of religion.
There is something of a quasi religious feel to this. The cross on its' side and the vine. I don't understand what a green moat is? Is it like a castle moat here in England where the water has now gone and its' all grass?
Hi Martin
very delicate and sweet..I like it very much (as usual)..
Great composition Martin - it emphasises the sense of mystery. I like the fact that the foreground is so crisp with sharp shadows and the background so soft. The out of focus part of the vine is only slightly unsettling - easily remedied if you go back - just curl it around the gate!
  • Les Auld
  • Southport in the sun
  • 1 Nov 2007, 23:20
It looks like the fence is keeping me from seeing what is beyond, if I climb over it the distance will come into focus. I like the composition of this and the B&W presentation suits it down to the ground.
  • Roland
  • France
  • 2 Nov 2007, 10:05
Humm Nice B&W lines and lights... The little leef on the left makes the shot !
This is a likey!!

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